Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for My Same-Gender Romance Mods for Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic Series
+written by Leilukin
+First published on March 5, 2016
Last updated on October 12, 2022
(Note: This article was originally published on Nexus Mods. I decided to host the article on my own website instead for better management and formatting)
+This article compiles the frequently asked questions I have received for my same-gender romance mods for Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (KotOR) series.
+ +PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT MY ROMANCE MODS!
+ +My same-gender romance mods for KotOR 1 include:
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- Carth Onasi and Male PC Romance +
My same-gender romance mods for KotOR 2 include:
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- Alternate Revan Romances REDUX +
- Atton Rand and Male Exile Romance +
- Dahnis Flirt Option for Female PC +
- Darth Sion and Male Exile Mod +
- Handmaiden and Female Exile – Disciple and Male Exile Romance +
- Visas Marr and Female Exile Romance +
I have also compiled a list of all the same-gender romance mods various modders had created throughout the history of KotOR modding.
+Technical Questions
+ ++ I am having problems with this mod / I cannot get this mod to work / this mod does not work for me. +
+Please make sure you have downloaded and installed the latest version of my mods, and read the Read Me files of my mods to make sure you have followed ALL the information and instructions in my Read Me files before asking questions for technical support.
+When you are asking for technical support, please provide details for the issues you encountered: when and how did your problem start happening and what mods you have installed. Simply saying "mod doesn't work" DOES NOT help the mod author to figure out the cause of your issue. When I ask you for more details, please answer my questions honestly, so I can identify how to solve your problems. Telling me ALL the mods you use will help me greatly in figuring out if your issue was caused by mod conflict or not.
++ When I installed your mod, I got the error message: "[ERROR] Unhandled exception: Access violation at address [a bunch of numbers]. Write of address [a bunch of numbers] (0)". +
+Try to right-click your KotOR 2 folder or subfolders, go to Properties and uncheck the "Read-only", then try to install my mod again to see if it works.
++ When installing your mod for KotOR 2, I got "Destination file "Modules\[____].mod" does not exist at the specified location! Skipping section... [Error]" and other similar errors, even though I had installed the installer (.exe) version of The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod. +
+First, go to the folder where your KotOR 2 game is installed, and go to the Modules folder, then check if the .mod files mentioned in the error messages are in your Modules folder.
+For example, for Handmaiden and Female Exile – Disciple and Male Exile Romance mod, you need to check if these .mod files are in your Modules folder:
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- 003EBO.mod +
- 006EBO.mod +
- 262TEL.mod +
- 301NAR.mod +
- 303NAR.mod +
- 402DXN.mod +
- 602DAN.mod +
- 610DAN.mod +
- 650DAN.mod +
- 907MAL.mod +
- 908MAL.mod +
- 950COR.mod +
If you cannot find those .MOD files in your Modules folder, your issue might be caused by your computer registering two different installation locations for KotOR 2. I suggest you check out this guide on how to make sure your computer recognize the version of KotOR 2 game where you want to install KotOR 2 mods on. While the guide focuses on Steam version of KotOR 2, you could edit the registry to make your computer properly recognise the installation location of your KotOR 2 game.
+Here are the default installation locations of KotOR 2 depending on the game version:
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- Steam (32-bit Windows): C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Knights of the Old Republic II +
- Steam (64-bit Windows): C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Knights of the Old Republic II +
- Retail CD (32-bit Windows): C:\Program Files\LucasArts\SWKotOR2\ +
- Retail CD (64-bit Windows): • C:\Program Files (x86)\LucasArts\SWKotOR2\ +
- Steam (32-bit Windows): C:\GOG Games\Star Wars - KotOR2 +
If you do not know if you have Windows 64-bit or 32-bit, read this article to find out.
++ Will you upload your mods to Steam Workshop? +
+NO. I do not use Steam Workshop, and frankly, I hate the Steam Workshop for how terrible it is for modding KotOR 2 and how much mod compatibility issues it causes. I suggest you read this post on why using Steam Workshop is NOT recommend for modding KotOR 2. Therefore, I DO NOT want any of my mods to be added to the Steam Workshop.
+STOP ASKING FOR ANY OF MY MODS TO BE ADDED THE STEAM WORKHOP. MY ASNWER WILL ALWAYS BE A FIRM NO, FULL STOP.
++ I am having problems a KotOR 2 mod of yours, and I am using the Steam Workshop. Can you help me? +
+See my answer to the previous question. I am not responsible for any bugs caused by you using any mods from the Steam Workshop. The only suggestion I will give you for compatibility issues between my mods and the Steam Workshop is to get rid of all your Steam Workshop mods entirely, and make sure there are no leftover Steam Workshop folders in your Steam directory. In order to do this, go to the Steam Workshop folder in your Steam directory (/\Steam\SteamApps\Workshop\), and delete all the sub-folders in the Steam Workshop folder.
++ Does this mod work with [insert a different mod here]? +
+Please read the “Mod Compatibility” section of my mod description and Read Me files before asking. If there is a mod you want to use that was not mentioned in my mod description and Read Me files, you can still ask me. Just make sure you tell me the actual name of the mod and ideally, provide a link to the mod you want to ask about, so I can check the mod out myself to confirm if it is compatible with my mod. Do not expect me to know the existence of every single KotOR mod out there.
++ Can I use your mods with non-English localizations of the KOtOR games and The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod (TSLRCM)? +
+No. I play and mod the KotOR game in English exclusively. Some of my mods in particular will cause your game to crash if you are playing a non-English localization of the KotOR games and TSLRCM, because those mods add custom dialogues that do not exist in the vanilla game in order to prevent characters from referring to the player character as the wrong gender. The only solution to crashes caused by you playing on a non-English localization is to play the KotOR games and TSLRCM in English.
+If you are interested in making a non-English translation or localization of my mods yourself, you may contact me to ask for my permission to do so. However, since I am not familiar with any of the non-English languages officially supported by the KotOR games, I am unable to provide support for any issues players may have with using your non-English translation or localization of my mod.
++ For your KotOR 2 mods that require The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod (TSLRCM) to work, will you make an alternate version that does not require TSLRCM? +
+No, I will not make a no-TSLRCM version of my mods that require TSLRCM to function. TSLRCM is widely agreed by players, including KotOR modders, to be an essential mod for the best experience with KotOR 2. Making a non-TSLRCM version of content mod like this would require me to spend extra time to replay KotOR 2 without TSLRCM, and therefore subjecting myself to a lesser experience with the game, which I consider a massive waste of my time. In general, if you see any KotOR 2 mod that requires TSLRCM to work (not just my mods), do not expect to see a non-TSLRCM version.
+If you are having issues with using TSLRCM, I suggest you report the bugs you encountered and ask for help for solving your issues on the TSLRCM forum on Deadly Stream.
++ How to install your mods on the Xbox/Android/iOS/Switch/any other non-PC version of KotOR or KotOR 2? +
+Sorry, I cannot help directly with modding the KotOR games on any console or mobile devices, because I only own the PC version of the KotOR games. I make no promises that I will port my KotOR mods for those platforms specifically either.
+Some of my mods require TSLPatcher to install to make the mod work properly, especially if you also want to use other mods in addition to my mods and for KotOR 2, The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod. Simply copying and pasting files from my mod to your game's directory does NOT guarantee my mod will work as intended, and you may encounter bugs that could possibly game-breaking.
+For Android and iOS users, I suggest referring to the KotOR subreddit's wiki, specifically their general instructions in their mobile mod builds. See this page for KotOR 1 and this page for KotOR 2.
+For Switch users, in order to mod the KotOR game on Switch, first you need to hack or modded your Switch, then use the KotOR Switch Modding Framework and KotOR II Switch Modding Framework to install mods. According to JacqylFrost, the creator of these frameworks, both TSLRCM and my Handmaiden same-geneder romance mod work with the KotOR 2 version. I suggest you ask JacqylFrost directly if you need help with modding the KotOR games on Switch.
+For Steam Deck users, you may refer to JacqylFrost's Steam Deck modding guide on the KotOR subreddit.
++ Are your romance mods compatible with the KotOR subreddit's mod builds? +
+Yes, all my mods are compatible with the KotOR subreddit's mod builds.
+The only one that requires you to install at a very specific point of the mod build is my Handmaiden and Female Exile - Disciple and Male Exile Romance mod for KotOR 2, which should be installed after PartySwap if you choose to use it. If you also want to install Extended Enclave, you should use the compatibility patch included in my Handmaiden/Disciple romance mod, instead of the standalone patch I made for the mod build.
+Mod Content Questions
+ ++ Will you add kissing scenes/sex scenes to your romance mods? +
+No. The purpose of my same-gender romance mods is not necessary to add new content, but to allow players to experience the pre-existing romance content in the KotOR series without the heterosexual gender restrictions. Kissing or sex scenes are beyond the scope of my mods, and I do not necessary have the skills required (such as modelling, animations, etc.) to create them either, especially given how limited the animations in these old games are.
+For Carth Onasi and Male PC Romance mod for KotOR 1, if you want your male PC to kiss Carth, you may install cjt0202's Carth Romance Fix mod, then install the compatibility patch provided in my mod.
++ Will you make a romance mod for Canderous/Bao-Dur/Mira/any other character with no romance content in the vanilla game? +
+No. Due to the fact that these characters were never intended to be romance options for the player character, creating romance content for these characters require extra work and effort, namely writing new dialogue, scripting and animating new scenes, and ideally, finding voice actors or using voice synthesithers for these new content, because some people (myself included) find it immersion-breaking to see party member suddenly become silent in certain lines despite being voiced in every other dialogue. This goes beyond my modding capabilities, and I do not have enough time and desire to put this large amount of work in video game mods for the foreseeable future.
++ Why do you make everyone gay? +
+I am a lesbian who would like to see more representation of LGBTQ+ people and relationships in media, including Star Wars, and I am not the only one who feels this way. I made these same-gender romance mods for fellow LGBTQ+ players who want more gay content in KotOR as well. I find KotOR 2's complete lack of same-gender romance options especially disaappointing, since the first KotOR at least has Juhani as a canon lesbian romance option, so I made these mods to fill the void. In fact, after releasing my same-gender romance mods, many other LGBTQ+ players have expressed gratitute for the existence of these mods, and consider these mods a huge improvement to their KotOR experience
+Cisgender and heterosexual people already get countless representations in media, including Star Wars. If the idea that everyone in your favorite piece of media could be gay makes you uncomfortable, perhaps you meed to examine why you feel that way. Keep in mind that LGBTQ+ people already have to see countless pieces of mainstream media filled with cisgender and heterosexual characters without a single LGBTQ+ character even existing. +
Frankly, opposing the concept of same-gender romance mods for video games for any reason is homophobic. As a gay person, this is a stance I will not change my mind on. Any comment or message that tries to argue with me otherwise will be ignored or deleted without response.
++ Character X being gay does not fit his/her character. +
+That is just your opinion, and an opinion I will never agree with. Like it or not, there will always be someone who would like to see gay content for any of the characters affected by my same-gender romance mods.
+Mod Specific Questions
+ +Alternate Revan Romances REDUX
+ ++ Will you make Juhani a romance option for male Revan too in Alternate Revan Romances REDUX? +
+No. I will never make Juhani a romance option for male characters under any circumstances. I also do not support any mods that make Juhani a romance option for male characters.
+Unlike Bastila and Carth, Juhani is a canon gay character (meaning she is officially confirmed to be attracted to the same gender exclusively) and she has always been intended to be a lesbian, a woman who is exclusively attracted to women. In fact, the first KotOR game has gone out of its way to ensure ONLY female player characters can romance Juhani.
+Making Juhani a romance option for male characters cannot be compared to making Bastila and Carth same-gender romance options, because heterosexual people already get countless representations in media, including Star Wars and KotOR. Making heterosexual romance options like Batila and Carth available for same-gender romance options is out of desire for more LGBTQ+ representation, while making Juhani a romance option for male characters, including making Juhani bisexual, is erasing her lesbian sexuality and disrespecting lesbian representation.
+As a lesbian myself, I utterly and firmly oppose the idea of making canon lesbian characters like Juhani romanceable by men (or canon gay male — as in, men who are exclusively attracted to men — characters romanceable by women), because it is very disrespectful for gay representation, especially consider the fact that Juhani is literally the only confirmed LGBTQ+ character in any KotOR game. Making canon lesbian characters like Juhani roanceable by men is also reminiscent of the real-life homophobic attitude that gay people's sexualities can be changed, which leads to “conversion therapy”. Lesbians specifically are often discriminated and prejudiced against not only due to our same-gender attraction to women, but also our lack of attraction to men, to the extend there is a word for it: lesbophobia.
+Alternate Revan Romances, and all my same-gender romance mods, are about adding more same-gender romance options, and not inherently about removing every gender restriction in romances without any thought or consideration. Ultimately, My reasons and motives for opposing changing Juhani's lesbian sexuality, and at the same time supporting making Bastila and Carth bi, are all about wanting more LGBTQ+ representation and respecting canon LGBTQ+ representation. It is not inherently about adhering to canon, but about respecting representation of marginalised groups like LGBTQ+ people.
+Keeping canon gay chracters exclusive to same-gender romances, including keeping Juhani's romance exclusive to female chracters only, is a stance I am not going to change my mind on, so I would appreciate anyone not debating me on this.
+Handmaiden and Female Exile - Disciple and Male Exile Romances
+ ++ I am using your Handmaiden romance mod while playing as a female player character, but Handmaiden does not join my party after I leave the Telos Academy! +
+If Handmaiden does not join your female Exile's party when you are using my Handmaiden romance mod, the possible causes for this happening include:
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- You did not install my mod correctly. Either you get errors when installing the “Default Installation” option, or you did not install DarthTyren's PartySwap mod first before installing the “PartySwap Compatible” option of my mod. +
- You have a
holorec.dlgfile in the Override folder, either from a mod you are using or a mod you previously used. If there is a holorec.dlg in your Override folder, delete it.
+ - You may have some leftover Steam Workshop folders in your Steam directory that overrides the portion where Handmaiden is supposed to join your party. To solve this, go to the Steam Workshop folder in your Steam directory (/\Steam\SteamApps\Workshop\), and delete all the sub-folders in the Steam Workshop folder. +
- Similar to the above, you may have some leftover files from a mod you used in your previous playthrough in your KotOR 2 game directory that interferes the portion where Handmaiden is supposed to join your party. The best way to solve this is to uninstall your game, delete your KotOR 2 game folder entirely, and then re-install the game and the mods you want to use. +
+ I am using PartySwap along with your same-gender romance mod for Handmaiden and Disciple. Disciple replaces Handmaiden in the party selection screen when he joins. +
+PartySwap's mod page already stated that the mod “adds a usable item (adrenal) that will allow you to replace any member of the current party with Handmaiden (wherever appropriate)”. When Disciple joins you, the game will show a notification informing you that you have received an item named PartySwap. That is what you need to use to add or remove Handmaiden in your party. Due to the game's limitations, it is impossible to add both Handmaiden and Disciple in the party selection screen without replacing one of the other party members. Handmaiden is still one of your party members, and you can still talk to her in your ship.
++ For your Handmaiden/DIsciple romance mod, can you make it so you always recruit Handmaiden or Disciple only regardless of the Exile's gender? +
+No, and I see no point in making such mod when DarthTyren's PartySwap mod already exists to allow you to recruit both Handmaiden and Disciple in a single playthrough regardless of the Exile's gender. Additionally, my mod's primary goal is enabling same-gender romance options, so neither Male Exile/Handmaiden nor Female Exile/Disciple romance is a priority of my mod.
+Therefore, if you want Handmaiden or Disciple in your party regardless of your Exile's gender, my recommendation is to install PartySwap. If you also want same-gender romance with Handmaiden or Disciple, install the PartySwap compatible installation option of my mod after PartySwap. Even if you prefer Handmaiden to Disciple, or vice versa, I will still recommend you to use PartySwap instead so you can get the most out of the party members in a single playthrough.
++ I am using your Handmaiden romance mod, but I cannot spar with the Handmaiden when she joins my party! +
+This is not a problem with my mod. The FAQ of The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod (TSLRCM)'s mod page and Read Me file already addressed this:
+Due to a bug, sparring with Handmaiden while in outer space (directly after leaving the Telos Academy) made the fight unwinnable. So for TSLRCM you will have to travel to another planet, exit and re-enter for the option to appear, giving a glitch-free sparring. It's not gone, no worries!+